How to deal with an AMOG (PUA style)

There are definently multiple ways of dealing with AMOG’s. This is a LONG post, but it is a worthwhile read.

An AMOG (Alpha Male Of Group, Alpha Male Other Guy) is a very interesting part of the seduction game. These guys are typically naturals and will attempt to tool you and then take away your ladies (it’s happened to me, it definently got me pumped to open another set, but it still sucks).

There are A LOT of great lines you can use to instantly shoot down an AMOG. Some of my personal favorites are (these aren’t ones I created);

“Dude, you look really tired.”

“Man, you’re such a joker! You’re such a comedian, you must think this stuff up all day! I can’t compete!”

“Do you have a girlfriend?” (yes) “Whoa, you leave your Girlfriend at home? That’s cold.” (no) “Oh, man, it’s okay, you’ll find someone…”

“I’ll point my finger at you when I want to talk to you.”

“Dude, Did you get some sun today? You look red.”

“Dude, you don’t have to try so hard! These chicks totally like you! Just be real!”

These are definently great if you quickly recognize an AMOG trying to break into your set. But what about a situation where these lines won’t work?

Here are anti-AMOG guidelines:

-Don’t try to defend yourself, don’t directly acknowledge his comment.
-Don’t change your body language, attitude or anything else.
-Give him very little attention, I suggest that you continue making eye contact with the girls as you talk to him.
-If you can turn your back towards him, do it.

-Snip any conversation he tries to make with you or the girls.
-Don’t say anything that lowers your value. If he insults you directly, don’t agree with him.
Example:
AMOG: “You are gay.” PUA “Yeah, I am so gay”. – That is bad, even if you are being sarcastic, it’s not good.

-Once the AMOG intrudes, ignore him completely. Pause very very shortly (1/2 a second) once he starts talking, then continue immediately with your previous thread. Don’t say anything to him, just keep gaming the girls.
-Girl code “weird guy” with your eyes to the set.
-If he doesn’t say anything, never acknowledge his presence, he will probably end up walking away.
-If he repeats what he said (all of this usually happens just over a split second), finish your sentence and wait a beat.
-Look at him with your eyes, don’t shift your head.
-Then say, “you said something?”
-The guy looks like a tool for repeating whatever he said 3 times. At this point, you can reinitiate the girlsand say, “Do you know this guy, did you come with him, he is creepy”.
-Then girlcode “lets go” with your eyes to the set.

If the dude follows you after you move, he will look like a complete idiot for following all of you.

Also, give the AMOG a nickname or something. Generalize something about him, if he has a scar or something, call him scarface. If he has weirdly spiked hair, call him raptor. If you can’t find anything about him, call him man or dude.

If he tries to touch you in order to out-alpha you, just say, “easy there tiger, I don’t like guys, the gay bar is over there though”.

With the Mystery Method or other pickup artist’s methods, like Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo, AMOG is not really an important aspect in seduction. They focus on building connection with the female. In their seduction method, the term “Cockblock” may mean the same thing. Cockblock stands for a dude who will try to disrupt your game accidentally or intentionally.

Amog is a pickup slang in seduction community. It was original coined by Tyler Durden (aka Owen Cook), who is now running the company Real Social Dynamics. AMOG Stands for Alpha-Male Other GUY. It Means PUA(Pickup artist) makes use of Psychological, physical, verbal and social tactics to eliminate a feasible rival–usually fella or other guys accidentally in the group. The term Amog can also stands for “Alpha male of the group”. In seduction community, it believes that in the event you show you are a Alpha Man, then you have demonstrated high value, and build attraction for the female. The attraction to the female is a critical step in the method of seduction.

In Tyler Durden’s Opinion, Amog are competitors with pickup skill who actively seek to interrupt your set and steal the girls. But you must keep in mind that most people are not amogs. So Be cautious about using the Amog tactics. As to when pua can use Amog routines, TD proposed a brand spanking new rule — 80% rules. It indicates when you see a man as well as a HB staying together, eighty percentage of the time they is not her fella.

When Tyler Durden entered the seduction community, they attached particular importance to this issue. They wrote plenty of long articles about how to deal with Amog, and made many awesome Amog Methods. Despite Neil Strass’s ironic speculation in his Non-fiction bestseller – “The Game” that TD attached great importance to Amog cause “Stealing A Woman From The jocks who used to pick on him in school was a taste far sweeter than basically seducing a woman sitting a lone in a cafe”, the importance of dealing with Amog has been widely known in the seduction community.

Amog Method Examples:

Here are some Amog routines field-tested probably hundreds of times, and you can find more online

AMOG: Hey girls, what’s up?

You: Hey dude (put your hands in the air like you give up), I will pay you a hundred dollars right now to take these girls away from me.

(The girls will go, “No, no. we love you.” And they are going to laugh and crawl on you, which is immediately deflating to the Amog.)

Amog Method Two

When Amog try to physically dominate you, like picking you up & giving you a hug, “sorry sweetheart I didn’t mean to upset you (winks at girls with you in his arms)”, you ought to insinuate they are gay.

AMOG: [Starts touching you to show dominance)

You : Ha ha, dude (show you are flattered). I am not in to guys, man. Dude, the gay club is over there. Put your hands off the merchandise, buddy.

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Once you get the guy to qualify himself to you in any way (like he tries to make friends), rather than being nice, IMMEDIATELY cut him out of the circle. Just cut him out. You will notice him trying to SHUT YOUR GAME DOWN by bombarding you with logical questions. They’ll start pummeling you with logical stuff, so that you have to answer him the girls fall out of state. For me I found the solution was just to say “hey man, don’t get all scientific on me.. we’re here to have fun..” and then immediately start gaming the girls again. btw, if I’m out with any of my GFs at a club, and another guy hits on them, I use the same tactics on AMOGS to stop them.

When you cut him out of the circle, he’ll either leave (too deflated), or he’ll try to grab your shoulder and say something like “don’t turn your back on me”. From there, the girls think he’s creepy, so you say “hey guys, this dude is creepy.. are you friends with this guy?? did YOU bring this guy here?” The girls will say “no no no, we don’t know him”, and you say “OK, let’s get out of here”, and put out your arms for them to grab.

Then walk away with the girls on your arms, and if you want (I do this alot) turn around and have them both kiss you on the cheek and wave the douchebag goodbye.

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What do you do if you’re interrupted? You’re telling your target a story and she is all into it but some AFC cock-blocking idiot just runs up and starts screaming and yelling and you’re like, “What the fuck?”

Mystery: Simply ask him if you can borrow his pen.  When he gives it to you, throw it away as you say, “Fetch.”

Lego: Hahaha.  Nice!

Wakeboarde: What if he’s bigger than you?

Mystery: I’d instead call him on his disruptive shit and remark, “Dude, what are you attempting here?”  Not good enough?  Then say, “Ladies? Shall we discover what adventure awaits us in another room?”

or

One of Mystery’s AMOGing tactics was to say “dude, what are you trying here? Are you trying to hit on her.” If this doesnt work and your feeling brave ask if they have a lighter/cigarette/wallet etc. Tell them you want to show them some magic. Whatever they give you throw it away and say “fetch” If he does, instantly he has DLV. Job done, be careful with that one though.

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